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		By: Phil Williams		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30875&quot;&gt;ANDRE&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Andre,

Ah yes, you are right in that regard, though that is a different usage so I suppose I was referring specifically to people in the plural as I had it here.

That&#039;s an interesting point regarding the relative pronoun; indeed I could imagine we &quot;a people&quot; used with which, that or who. To my ear, I think &quot;who&quot; does sound most appropriate, and indeed in the plural form, though I wouldn&#039;t discount the others as being commonly used. I would agree with that guide, &quot;who&quot; most appropriately goes with the plural here, while which/that sound more natural in the singular, but I&#039;m not sure I could confidently say why or that the alternatives are categorically wrong. 

Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30875" data-wpel-link="internal">ANDRE</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Andre,</p>
<p>Ah yes, you are right in that regard, though that is a different usage so I suppose I was referring specifically to people in the plural as I had it here.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point regarding the relative pronoun; indeed I could imagine we &#8220;a people&#8221; used with which, that or who. To my ear, I think &#8220;who&#8221; does sound most appropriate, and indeed in the plural form, though I wouldn&#8217;t discount the others as being commonly used. I would agree with that guide, &#8220;who&#8221; most appropriately goes with the plural here, while which/that sound more natural in the singular, but I&#8217;m not sure I could confidently say why or that the alternatives are categorically wrong. </p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		By: ANDRE		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30873&quot;&gt;Phil Williams&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Phil,

Thanks for all your articles. 

I think &#039;people&#039; could be treated as a singular noun in the sense of &#039;all the persons who belong to a particular country, community, or ethnic group, as in &#039;the Kariera, a people of Western Australia&#039;. A highly-regarded dictionary, for instance, defines &#039;reindeer tribe&#039;  as  &#039;a people which lives by herding or hunting reindeer,...&#039;  
&#039;People&#039; is in the singular in this example, but what caught my attention was the relative pronoun &#039;which&#039; after &#039;people&#039;.
One of my usage guides (PEU) says, &#039;we prefer &#039;who&#039; as a relative pronoun with plural forms, and &#039;which&#039; with singular forms.&#039; [e.g. &#039;The committee, who are...&#039;, but &#039;The committee, which is...&#039;] This explanation might underpin, as it were, constructions such as &#039;a people which lives&#039;.  However, &#039;a people which live(s)&#039;, &#039;a people who live(s)&#039;, and &#039;a people that live(s)&#039; can all be found on the Web.
What do you think about the appropriateness and grammaticality of &#039;a people which/who/that live(s)&#039;?
All the best.

Andre]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30873" data-wpel-link="internal">Phil Williams</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Phil,</p>
<p>Thanks for all your articles. </p>
<p>I think &#8216;people&#8217; could be treated as a singular noun in the sense of &#8216;all the persons who belong to a particular country, community, or ethnic group, as in &#8216;the Kariera, a people of Western Australia&#8217;. A highly-regarded dictionary, for instance, defines &#8216;reindeer tribe&#8217;  as  &#8216;a people which lives by herding or hunting reindeer,&#8230;&#8217;<br />
&#8216;People&#8217; is in the singular in this example, but what caught my attention was the relative pronoun &#8216;which&#8217; after &#8216;people&#8217;.<br />
One of my usage guides (PEU) says, &#8216;we prefer &#8216;who&#8217; as a relative pronoun with plural forms, and &#8216;which&#8217; with singular forms.&#8217; [e.g. &#8216;The committee, who are&#8230;&#8217;, but &#8216;The committee, which is&#8230;&#8217;] This explanation might underpin, as it were, constructions such as &#8216;a people which lives&#8217;.  However, &#8216;a people which live(s)&#8217;, &#8216;a people who live(s)&#8217;, and &#8216;a people that live(s)&#8217; can all be found on the Web.<br />
What do you think about the appropriateness and grammaticality of &#8216;a people which/who/that live(s)&#8217;?<br />
All the best.</p>
<p>Andre</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30869&quot;&gt;Javier Lifa&lt;/a&gt;.

People is a little different as it looks like a group noun, not having the appearance of a typical plural, but it is actually a more regular plural and is, to the best of my knowledge, always treated as a plural. Unless you mean in the case of my example specifically &quot;a group of people&quot;, which I suppose could also confuse as it contains both a group noun and a plural in one phrase!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/group-nouns-plural-complements/#comment-30869" data-wpel-link="internal">Javier Lifa</a>.</p>
<p>People is a little different as it looks like a group noun, not having the appearance of a typical plural, but it is actually a more regular plural and is, to the best of my knowledge, always treated as a plural. Unless you mean in the case of my example specifically &#8220;a group of people&#8221;, which I suppose could also confuse as it contains both a group noun and a plural in one phrase!</p>
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You&#039;re welcome!]]></description>
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<p>You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Mr. Williams, for such a useful post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mr. Williams, for such a useful post.</p>
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		By: Javier Lifa		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brilliant. Now, you used the word &#039;people&#039;, which could have served as another example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. Now, you used the word &#8216;people&#8217;, which could have served as another example.</p>
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