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		By: Phil Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2022 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-31173&quot;&gt;Ahmed Hassan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ahmed,

Thank you for the message, and I&#039;m glad you like the material. This is a good question that is tricky to really be definitive on: grammatically, it will generally always sound most correct to backshift reported speech, but in practice indeed it can still make perfect sense to keep the future tense if the situation is current. I believe in informal language (and an awful lot of reported speech in this situation will be informal) you&#039;d certainly hear speech reported this way, particularly when a future plan is more immediately relevant, or we want to emphasise it will happen. The reason for the backshift, after all, is to make it clear that the speech was accurate at the time of saying it, so for example &quot;John said he would come later today,&quot; tells us it was his intention at the time of speaking, but &quot;John said he will come later today&quot; instead emphasises our current belief that it is going to happen – the backshift is grammatically accurate, but the alternative can also be possible.

I hope this helps!

Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-31173" data-wpel-link="internal">Ahmed Hassan</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ahmed,</p>
<p>Thank you for the message, and I&#8217;m glad you like the material. This is a good question that is tricky to really be definitive on: grammatically, it will generally always sound most correct to backshift reported speech, but in practice indeed it can still make perfect sense to keep the future tense if the situation is current. I believe in informal language (and an awful lot of reported speech in this situation will be informal) you&#8217;d certainly hear speech reported this way, particularly when a future plan is more immediately relevant, or we want to emphasise it will happen. The reason for the backshift, after all, is to make it clear that the speech was accurate at the time of saying it, so for example &#8220;John said he would come later today,&#8221; tells us it was his intention at the time of speaking, but &#8220;John said he will come later today&#8221; instead emphasises our current belief that it is going to happen – the backshift is grammatically accurate, but the alternative can also be possible.</p>
<p>I hope this helps!</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		By: Ahmed Hassan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 11:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30039&quot;&gt;Phil Williams&lt;/a&gt;.

HI 
Thanks for your weekly grammatical review. I have been following you for some time and also bought one of your books, Advanced Writing Skills. I would like to ask you a separate question regarding tense. Sometimes I still get confused in reporting speech. Do I need to change the reporting speech if the situation is still real?
 For example, can I say I spoke with John yesterday, and, he said he&#039;ll be coming today or tomorrow? I&#039;ll stick to changing verbs and say I spoke to John yesterday, and he told me he was coming today or tomorrow.

Regards]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30039" data-wpel-link="internal">Phil Williams</a>.</p>
<p>HI<br />
Thanks for your weekly grammatical review. I have been following you for some time and also bought one of your books, Advanced Writing Skills. I would like to ask you a separate question regarding tense. Sometimes I still get confused in reporting speech. Do I need to change the reporting speech if the situation is still real?<br />
 For example, can I say I spoke with John yesterday, and, he said he&#8217;ll be coming today or tomorrow? I&#8217;ll stick to changing verbs and say I spoke to John yesterday, and he told me he was coming today or tomorrow.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		By: Phil Williams		</title>
		<link>https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 21:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30040&quot;&gt;John Mowat&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi John,

Yes, you&#039;re right, I&#039;ll update it now - thanks for spotting that!

Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30040" data-wpel-link="internal">John Mowat</a>.</p>
<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right, I&#8217;ll update it now &#8211; thanks for spotting that!</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		By: John Mowat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 21:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Phil,

In the third example under Broad or Semi-Negatives, should it not be, &quot;There are very few chocolates left in the box.&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>In the third example under Broad or Semi-Negatives, should it not be, &#8220;There are very few chocolates left in the box.&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Phil Williams		</title>
		<link>https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 13:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30038&quot;&gt;Andre Bianconi&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Andre,

Ah yes, thanks for that addition – good point regarding the regional difference and I do find that quite a strange one for Swan to differentiate, as to me personally (in British English) the perfect tense sounds most natural there and the simple tense unusual. But as he has identified it, I&#039;m sure there are speakers who use the simple tense for the same meaning, and I suppose it can make sense grammatically if we use &quot;to be&quot; to define the time period (e.g. &quot;It is three months since I saw her.&quot; = &quot;The amount of time since I saw her is three months.&quot;).

Best,

Phil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/broad-implied-negatives/#comment-30038" data-wpel-link="internal">Andre Bianconi</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Andre,</p>
<p>Ah yes, thanks for that addition – good point regarding the regional difference and I do find that quite a strange one for Swan to differentiate, as to me personally (in British English) the perfect tense sounds most natural there and the simple tense unusual. But as he has identified it, I&#8217;m sure there are speakers who use the simple tense for the same meaning, and I suppose it can make sense grammatically if we use &#8220;to be&#8221; to define the time period (e.g. &#8220;It is three months since I saw her.&#8221; = &#8220;The amount of time since I saw her is three months.&#8221;).</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		By: Andre Bianconi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 13:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Phil,
I have previously told you that I&#039;ve got several dozen grammars and usage guides, including &#039;The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language&#039;, which is impressively comprehensive in scope and analytical range. They all contain sections about negation and broad negatives, but none of them highlights the fact that the &#039;It&#039;s been + period + since&#039; construction may function as a broad negative, so that  it might be quite unusual or ungrammatical to use negative indefinite pronouns (e.g. &#039;no one&#039; or &#039;nobody&#039;) in sentences such as &#039;It&#039;s been years since he has taken her to visit anyone but the children.&#039; (NOT &#039;It&#039;s been years since he has taken her to visit no one but the children.&#039;)
It might be useful to mention that some authors (e.g. Thomson and Martinet in &#039;A Practical English Grammar&#039;) use &#039;It is + period + since&#039; rather than &#039;It&#039;s been + period + since&#039;. Michael Swan (&#039;Practical English Usage&#039;, 3rd edition, section 522), for instance, suggests that &#039;It&#039;s been a long time since…&#039; is more common in American English, whereas British speakers prefer present and past tenses in this structure (e.g. &#039;It&#039;s a long time since…&#039;, &#039;It was ages since…&#039;). Well, I reckon &#039;It&#039;s been + period + since...&#039; would sound quite natural on both sides of the pond. What do you think?
Thanks ever so much for your post.
All the very best,
Andre]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Phil,<br />
I have previously told you that I&#8217;ve got several dozen grammars and usage guides, including &#8216;The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language&#8217;, which is impressively comprehensive in scope and analytical range. They all contain sections about negation and broad negatives, but none of them highlights the fact that the &#8216;It&#8217;s been + period + since&#8217; construction may function as a broad negative, so that  it might be quite unusual or ungrammatical to use negative indefinite pronouns (e.g. &#8216;no one&#8217; or &#8216;nobody&#8217;) in sentences such as &#8216;It&#8217;s been years since he has taken her to visit anyone but the children.&#8217; (NOT &#8216;It&#8217;s been years since he has taken her to visit no one but the children.&#8217;)<br />
It might be useful to mention that some authors (e.g. Thomson and Martinet in &#8216;A Practical English Grammar&#8217;) use &#8216;It is + period + since&#8217; rather than &#8216;It&#8217;s been + period + since&#8217;. Michael Swan (&#8216;Practical English Usage&#8217;, 3rd edition, section 522), for instance, suggests that &#8216;It&#8217;s been a long time since…&#8217; is more common in American English, whereas British speakers prefer present and past tenses in this structure (e.g. &#8216;It&#8217;s a long time since…&#8217;, &#8216;It was ages since…&#8217;). Well, I reckon &#8216;It&#8217;s been + period + since&#8230;&#8217; would sound quite natural on both sides of the pond. What do you think?<br />
Thanks ever so much for your post.<br />
All the very best,<br />
Andre</p>
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